Internal Discipline Training

Master Hwa on Internal Discipline Training [via]: “Here is a brief example by Master Hwa of how to train the body for achieving Internal Discipline in Classical Tai Chi.”

Hmm.. the more I see on the Wu Style, the more interested I am becoming of this approach. We first saw a breakdown of the Wu form into it’s square and round components and the purpose of each component.  Then Hwa comes out with this video, which I think is quite good.  I’ve never really seen such emphasis being put on “isolation” of certain parts of the body. How does this jive with “when one part moves, the whole body moves”?

When I first learned xingyi and some liuhebafa, quite a bit of emphasis was placed on power generation through the opening/closing of the back.  In fact, LHBF added the 3 joints of the back to the “original 6 harmonies”, resulting in a “9-joint harmony” method of power generation.

A lot more of the modern material I see places quite a bit of emphasis on keeping the back straight. While this may be aesthetically pleasing, I often question how this lends itself to power generation?  Are we merely a “top” (think kid’s toy) that spins about itself and is able to deflect any incoming force? How does this play with the idea of “enticing” or opponents in, or the concepts of compress/contract?

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5 Responses to Internal Discipline Training

  1. sdflyer says:

    When Wu grandmaster performed like that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZuJBsIWl_k it was really disappointing..

  2. wujimon says:

    We can always find instances that may not live up to our expectations. Just consider the scenario if a certain master is a really good fighter, however he was a horrible teacher. Just b/c one learned from this good fighter, that doesn’t necessarily make the person a good fighter. It’s a combination of correct instruction, motivation and inherent abilities that make the goods.

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  4. Jim R. says:

    Regarding “Internal Discipline” keep in mind the size of the step that Master Hwa takes, this is “classical small frame” Taiji…see comments here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIcstWYHW5w.

    IMHO, regarding the “disappointing” fight, one should read a more detailed report http://www.wustyle.com/en/new/mag_page.php?mg=1&cp=1 before venturing an “opinion” on something that was controversial from the day they first hatched the idea of doing it.

    My understanding of some circumstances is that the ring was built over a swimming pool…how good was the footing on such a floor? Look at what passes for ropes, look at the gigantic size of the ring, can anyone say whether those 2 ever fought in a ring, anywhere at any time? Someone told me awhile back, they heard it may have been the 1st attempt at constructing a western style boxing ring there.

    My opinion as someone who has studied Wu Style for 25 years in Toronto and now with Master Stephen Hwa is that the fight was on a high level. I cannot speak for what one does in White Crane, but I remember a saying I heard in Toronto about “the first blow drawing blood”, that is what Wu Gongyi did. There are techniques as well where the knuckles are used in such a fashion that cuts and rips the skin, this takes holding the loose fist in a particular manner to be used like a knife, not an (tightened fist MMA) hammer. Those strokes where Wu raises the arm vertically then cuts down are an example.

    If one is judging this in light of mass media virulent misinformation and persistent viewing of such things as MMA, (mixed martial amnesia) the saying is zhǐ lù weí mǎ…”pointing at a deer and calling it a horse”…literally twisting the truth. This is only remedied by wǒ zuò wǒ liǎo jiě…I do and (only then can I say) I understand.

    Jim R.
    http://classicaltaichi.blogspot.com/

  5. wujimon says:

    Hi Jim.
    Thank you for the links and some further insight of “the fight”. You bring up an interesting notion of the “loose fist” and it’s ability in a fight scenario. I’ve been running across this recently and I have only started to explore this. Thanks for taking the time to stop by and comment 😉

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