Demonstration of Yang Family Middle Frame?

There’s quite a bit of chatter lately regarding the following videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXE8HqTSN3A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSMJVRN9pgc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Is3HGbeW0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2S8jvhJB6k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JcJdl3ZPy8

Source: YahooGroups TCCList

It’s been discussed on the list that this IS the yang family middle frame forms developed by Yang Chien Hou.  Is this true? I’m not quite sure, but what I do feel is the form is rather interesting and unlike anything commonly seen as Yang Style. It’s interesting to note the practitioners intention and focus.

One thing I wanted to excerpt from the list discussion was a response when a member asked if double weighting is allowed in this frame. The response was:

Double weighting in this transmission is defined differently from the pounds and ounces approach. The idea is that what is involved is your attention and the functioning of the mind. It is the mind that differentiates Yin and Yang, not just physical weighting.

The weight is continually flowing between the feet, back and forth and back and forth, even though it may appeared centered. What is involved is fluidity and lightness as the attention shifts, attaches and shifts again.

Steve Higgins on YahooGroups TCCList

The brings to mind a couple of things that has sparkled on the internet. Are we understanding the “Principles” correctly? For such a long time, the idea of double weighting has been attributed to having weight on both feet. However, Hong Jung Sheng refers to the concept as double heavy and defines things differently in his Chen Style Taijiquan Practical Method (Click on link for a review).  Even Chen Zhong Hua’s take on double heavy is slightly different though possibly the same thing from another perspective.

Even commenter, ZenMindSword has brought up the idea of challenging our current beliefs in regards to taiji principles. What’s interesting about the above comment from Steve Higgins is that it seems to relate a lot to what ZenMindSword has commented upon, it’s the mind.. the key lies in the mind. Hmm….

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3 Responses to Demonstration of Yang Family Middle Frame?

  1. zenmindsword says:

    Interesting form. Some observations – shoulders stiff in some postures; movements rely on biomechanical rather than intention; balance not controlled by mind but rely on physical transference of weight – just observe the wide shifting of his COG whenever he moves, wrist and ankle stiff; lack stillness in movement, substantial / insubstantial not differentiated properly, etc. – but that’s me. Maybe I’m wrong in my comments 😉 TCC is TCC – no big, middle or small except in the mind

  2. wujimon says:

    I agree that it’s an interesting form and something I have not been exposed to.

    What is “COG”? I’m not familiar with that term.

    I agree with some of the stiffness in movement and I also tend to have problems with my wrists, though never really thought of my ankles! I’ll have to explore that area :0)

  3. zenmindsword says:

    COG = centre of gravity 🙂 Cheng Man Ching wrote that the ankles are the hardest to relax – I can’t remember where I read it but it stuck in my memory for a long time until the day i learned how to resolve it which is why i can spot it when i see it now 🙂

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